When you meet Bolaji Abdullahi, our Sports Minister, for the first time, you instantly see that he is a man of great confidence and passion. Sensible, amicable, ardent about his duties, he seems an opposite to the many public servants. Here, Abdullahi speaks on the current sports sector changes, his views, Stephen Keshi. corruption, his experience as a bus conductor and... and more.
What will you say are your notable achievements in the last few years as Nigeria's Minister of Sports/Chairman, National Sports Commission?
In the last one year, we have realized that the foundation for sports development in our country have virtually disappeared and the need for us to do something urgent in that direction.
The London Olympics was a major starting point for us. I became minister shortly before the London Olympics and with the way it went, we came back with no medals at all. Like I always say, it's probably easier to manage failure than to manage success most of the time. So the failure of London made it easier for us to see the direction we should be heading.
If we are going to talk about any concrete achievement, it is in terms of those things we have started to put in place to ensure that Nigeria has strong representation in mega sports events in the future. This includes grassroots and elite sports development. We are building an entire framework and structure for federation reforms, putting in place the basic infrastructure at the national level for elite performance and the countrywide initiative for grassroots sports mobilization for young people. It is within this framework that we like to look at what we have achieved.
Some will, of course, want to point at the Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) 2013 victory. Yes, that was very important, but for me, I consider the framework we are putting in place very important in the work we are doing.
Team Nigeria failed to win a single medal at London 2012 Olympics, despite the billions allocated for the preparation. Isn't this an indictment of the state of the country's sports sector today? Why do you think Team Nigeria failed?
Like I said previously, I became sports ministers only few months, three months or so, before the Olympics, so by then, I never had any business with sports in terms of this level of management. But from what I know now or what I have learnt since then, I will say that it would have been a surprise if we won medals in London because I like to look at the previous outings we have had; Atlanta '96, where we had two gold medals, was our best outing so far.
Nigeria has been participating in the Olympic Games since 1952. If there was a system in place that delivered performances at that level, then there must be a relative level of consistency, especially at that highest level of sporting competition.
Countries like USA, UK, Korea, China or even Canada and others who won medals, have a deliberate system that consistently prepared their athletes throughout the season. We don't even have one high performance center in Nigeria. We must give credit to those athletes in Nigeria's history who, in spite of these absences, have excelled at that level of competition. It's not about the billions or lack of it that we failed. It's about what we did or didn't do over the years, not in the few weeks or few months to the Olympics.
Secondly, you could see that the education and health system are so intricately connected to the sports sector in these countries that did very well, in such a way that it is mutually re-enforcing. The education system itself provides the framework for sport development. This doesn’t exist in our country. There is a yearning gap that must be filled. The basic building blocks for excellence at the highest level of sports don't exist and this is what advises all the work we have been doing since the London Olympics ended.
After the London Olympics, some reports claimed that the sports ministry did not properly utilize money meant for the Games…
In all fairness to everyone involved, I will want to be contradicted on this; London 2012 was probably the only Olympics that we have attended in many years where athletes didn't complain that they were short changed. Have you read anywhere that any athlete complained that he or she was not been given the allowance that they were entitled to, or that they were not fed properly or the accommodation was bad?
The build up to London 2012 Olympics was about the best we have had in many years… Before the Games, we sent athletes to different countries for months. That didn't happen in the past. Some of our athletes posted impressive times in the London Olympics, although that didn't win them any medal, like Blessing Okagbare. She clocked 10.92 seconds in the 100 metres. That was the best ever but she was a silver medalist from Beijing Olympics.
The performance of our athletes in London Olympics was actually the best we have posted in many years. But what happened was that the rest of the world has moved on and left us behind. We broke the Commonwealth records in weight lifting, boxing, and for the first time, we had a female boxer who beat the world number two. For the first time in London, our male basketball team competed in the Olympics. These were the positives.
Coach Stephen Keshi put forward his resignation after leading the Super Eagles to AFCON 2013 success, until you waded in and solved the issues between him and the Nigerian Football Federation (NFF). Why do you think Nigerian football teams should stick to local coaches rather than foreign technical advisers?
The issue should not be whether the coach is foreign or local. The issue should be: do we have someone competent enough to do the job? To the best of my knowledge, the federation never approached me to say that they wanted to hire a foreign coach, whether during the AFCON, before it and after. I know that the NFF was strongly in support of coach Keshi. I think what happened was just a case of mismanagement of information and the situation. The coach and the federation itself could have better managed it.
No Nigerian was proud of the team's early performance at AFCON 2013. And as the National Sports Commission, we called the federation people to ask what was going on and who will they transfer the pressure on? The coach. We all have our own style of doing things, maybe some people asked him in a way that could have been done differently. So the coach had to say they are putting pressure on him and I told him several times that this was a wrong attitude. You may quarrel with the way and manner they go about it, but your employers have the right to ask you questions and that does not necessarily translate to interference.
Don't forget, I was the one who stopped the hiring of Tom Saintfiet because I felt there were Nigerians who could do it. So when the federation said that Keshi wanted to resign, I called him to verify; it was an embarrassing moment for all of us, because it was the best moment for our football in 19 years and a time for us to celebrate. It was also a moment when some people exaggerated issues. But I'm glad that we were able to put it behind us and after the AFCON, we have recorded some successes as well, so we are looking forward to improving on that.
Some analysts have criticized the ministry for not giving enough support to other sports, like it does football. What is your reaction to this?
I understand that football is a terribly jealous wife [laughs]. Yes, football takes priority over all other sports, but I have made conscious effort since I became minister not to be labeled as 'Football minister' but as sports minister. It is a conscious effort to encourage sports. In fact during the last national sports festival in Lagos, the only sports I didn't attend, was football events. I attended weight lifting, boxing, table tennis… I have travelled more on the account of other sports than football. We are making conscious efforts to develop these other sports. After all, if we do well in football in mega games, it will only give us one medal; but sports like taekwondo, weightlifting, and athletics can give us so many medals. We will focus on sports we are confident we hold competitive advantage in; boxing, wrestling, weight lifting, taekwondo, athletes and shooting, and of course football.
For the first time in our commission, we are going to have a high performance center soon. We are also going to have a national Olympics performance director and performance directors for each of these sports that I have mentioned, we never had that. We will conduct a globally competitive recruitment process. We're also redefining the recruitment process for athletes and introducing national Under-17 games. This would lead to the national sports festival, which is equivalent to our own Olympics.
A few weeks ago, His Excellency President Jonathan launched Rhythm'N'Play, our flagship grassroots programme. The objective is to use this programme to bring two million additional kids into sports over the next two years. This would be in football, volleyball, basketball, netball, judo, karate, and athletics. We want to bring sports back to the schools and bring schools system, using Rhythm'N'Play. It's an all-embracing process. The private sector is doing a lot of things with academics and football, so the idea is that for me we will put in place this basic building blocks. We cannot finish the work but the core of Mr. President's transformational agenda is to move us forward in whatever sector. That's what we try to do in sports; hoping succeeding generation of managers who will come after us will build on that. It cannot be done in three years but we must put in place deliberate framework that can improve the level of performance.
It is obvious that you have a passion for transforming Nigerian sports, but how do you hope to tackle the issue of corruption?
I was going to say we exaggerate this thing called corruption. Of course there is corruption, but we tend to exaggerate what corruption has done or can do to the system. If I give you N90 billion to work with, if you steal 10 billion, people will not notice, they will say you still have N80 billion to work with, even though you stole 10 billion. But if I give N4 billion, how much can you steal? Look at the budget of the National Sports Commission in the last four years, how much is it? I'm not saying people are not stealing kobo here and there, but the point is that there are laws to deal with it.
When people say someone is involved in corruption or if anybody knows somebody has done something like that, you can go to court or petition the relevant agencies as a citizen. The EFCC and ICPC are there. Let's report corruption to the appropriate authorities instead of just talking about it happening. Although people will still engage in corrupt practices in any sector no matter what, but it's not just enough to allege corruption. Government cannot carry the responsibility alone. The private sector will not put their money or resources in a system that's been roundly accused of corruption, it is a legacy problem. But just because people have done such things in the past doesn't mean people will always do it. There are conscious efforts to transform these things, but the most important thing for us is to continue systems and institutions that will limit the room for desecration. Then, that will place a limit to what people can do and when they do it, they can get caught. It’s like that in sports and in all sectors, and that is what we are trying to do.
You are an accomplished journalist, seasoned administrator and a successful Nigerian. But I read somewhere that you once had to work as a bus conductor…
I was a bus conductor, had two years' experience… My parents were poor. My mother was a petty trader and my father was a farmer and a tailor. But they were very proud people. Then I was a bit stubborn, I was 11-years-old at that time, I did not like the secondary school I was attending and wanted to attend another school instead. My dad knew only one person who was a police sergeant somewhere (his own idea of a 'big man'), he knew who could help his son get admission into this community school. He told me if I didn’t want to stay in the school, I was on my own. I said,"Oh well, if you insist, I won't go to school again". He said okay. So, I told myself that I had to earn my own pay to attend the school of my choice. And the next day I went to a motor park not far away from the house. Then, I used to sneak out of the house in the morning to the park. That was how I started my career as a bus conductor. I had no idea how much money I needed, but I knew that if I worked every day and saved some money, I would be able to pay my school fees by the next term. So I started working and earning money.
Whenever I came home daily, my dad looked at me like, "This wayward child who has gone to become a conductor"… And considering the kind of money I needed then, maybe I would have continued as a conductor for 10 years, until my uncle rescued me and took me to a school in Abuja, where I eventually finished my secondary school.
I attended Government Secondary School, Kwali. My uncle worked in Federal Government College but he couldn't afford to enroll me there. But he had a college friend who was the librarian in that school and I was close to him. So, I went to the Federal Government College library daily until I had read almost every book in the library. Then I went to him and said I wanted to write like these people (in the books). He bought me a rim of paper and pen, and asked me to write. Of course I was in the press club in secondary school, which was started by a National Youth Service Corps member. When I obtained my JAMB form, I chose UNILAG, Mass Communications as my first, second and third choice. I didn't even think of any back up. That was it [laughs].
Which football team do you support, both local and foreign?
Locally, I support Kwara United because that's where I'm from. I also support Enugu Rangers; I like them a lot, maybe because of their history, and like to watch them.
How can the country improve on its football league which has faced turbulent times in the last few years?
That's one area we have focused on very seriously since we got to the sports ministry. Because I strongly believe that until we are able to develop a quality and efficient league system, we will just continue to serve as a factory for producing raw talents for European leagues and that is not good for us. I believe that the best of our talents should remain in Nigeria. But if you have a league that cannot attract a sponsor, and whose governing framework cannot be defined in terms of the rights, one which has been depreciated because of internal wrangling and unnecessary politicking, in an age where leagues are run like business; then you can't make progress.
So what we did was to look at the potential the Nigerian league has, the challenges it faces and we were able to effect a change in its leadership and brought in a management team. Since we brought in that management team, the league has made a lot of progress. Now matches are more competitive, people are now confident that when they go to see a game, those games will end with fair results not ones that have been predetermined. Sponsors are now showing a lot more interest. There is a lot of hope. I am confident that, with what we have started, in another three years, we will have a radically different league.
The idea is to push Nigerian league to that level where we can be seen as one of the best leagues in the world. If we are not the sixth in the next three years, we should be among the first ten leagues in the world and we can even be a lot better than that. But what we have done is to restore sanity into the way the league is managed because what you sell in the league is the dignity of the game, and when there is no dignity, there is nothing; people will not come to the stadia. The government also realises the significance of what the league can deliver in terms of youth employment, because about 500,000 people can be employed on one match day alone, from those who supply the food, drinks, snacks, souvenirs, transportation, accommodation; all kinds of economies that can be built around the local leagues.
We are not there yet. It's very difficult because they are so many invested interests that have dug in over the years. And if you are going to dismantle the status quo, you have to be prepared to contend with those vested interests. It's difficult but we are making progress and I am confident that with the calibre of people we have put in charge of the league reforms at the moment, Nigerians will begin to see the Nigerian league differently.
What legacy will you like to leave behind?
I would like to be remembered as the minster that was not afraid to take on the very difficult but the less celebrated task of providing the basic structure for the development of sports. I also want to be remembered for the various policy reforms we have undertaken that are necessary for moving forward. I want to be measured by the system we have built, structures we have put in place, initiatives we've undertaken to provide the platform for future success.
But ultimately, don't forget that in the past people had talked about a lack of political will. However, I can tell you that we have ever had the kind of support which sports gets today from the President of Nigeria… So at the end of the day, I want to be remembered for the work I have done on his behalf because if didn't give us or hasn't been giving us the kind of support that we receive, we will not be able to do what we have been doing.